Morning Notes

Wednesday morning breakout group activity

Alpha/Beta Group

  • Looking at species area break-point models
  • Island archipelago, smaller area island species richness is all colonization, larger islands speciation becomes more important (Losos/Schluter)
  • local community structure at the alpha and also beta level.
  • Threshold where increasing area facilitates local speciation
    • Or maybe the inflection point doesn’t represent when speciation kicks in, but it does inflect still (cichlids)
  • How to account for time? How to account for rate of local diversification?
  • Less diversification/more diversification on the x-axis, so it could be area or time, or both.
  • Looking for plot level data across archipelagos
  • Insular systems where local diversification is relevant
  • If sequence data is available it might be possible to slap on Fst in addition to beta diversity, to explain increase in richness with area.
  • Is the archipelago a hotspot or not, interested in exploring other (continental) datasets?
  • Accounting for lumpy vs splitty taxa
  • Products
    • One paper with Luke leading. Data analysis. Review/Synthesis (maybe a model component).
    • Meta-analysis/mixed model including trees (HI), Azores insects, galapagos, anything else they can get hands on

Radiations

  • Data analysis
    • Taking big phylogenies including both island and mainland slices to ask questions about diversification within the island
    • Compare island and mainland clades of similar ages to identify whether there’s something special in the clade structure that explains radiation propensity.
    • Somehow incorporating abundances
    • Somehow incorporating Fst
    • Do lineages that radiate in islands have closely related lineages that radiate in the mainland?
    • When is the mainland the mainland?
  • Model
    • Gavrilets and Voehs extension (a complicated model of radiations on islands, different resources, different resource preferences)
    • generates predictions of macroevolution and macroecology
    • We don’t like the speciation concept in this model, so we could build a better speciation mechanism.
  • Could it be that truly neutral individual based models could generate phylogenies that sometimes generate clades that radiate wildly?
  • Products
    • Large analysis of islands that include taxonomic and phylogenetic data (including island birds and trees)
    • Which radiations are endemic which are singletons.
    • Need regional species level tree that represents potential colonists
    • Another product could be a more advanced model. Whether to incorporate this in the MESS model is an open question. Whether to construct as an individual model or a species model is also an open question.